So, I continued with Stomper Simple for a couple months at their $97 a month price. I was following the activities for about another month, and then jumped on the Mark Joyner 7-Day Business Turnaround offer. Which, I learned from, but... frankly it did not deliver what the sales letter had me expecting.
Meanwhile my finances were so bad that the Stomper Simple monthly charge didn't go through. It took them a few days to realize and I happened to look around on the Stomper Simple forums and saw that some of the most active posting people were dropping out. I think a lot of us, myself included, felt like the poor foster children of Stompernet and that responses from Stomper's faculty often sounded a little along the lines of "Just be glad we took you in. You're able to glimpse some of the greatest players in Internet Marketing here and at a fraction of the cost of our real children (full Stomper members)."
So, one of the items I learned about from the 7 Day Business turnaround was The Warrior Forum. Wow, now there is definitely a place that has many of the rising stars of Internet Marketing and many also-rans as well. There is a TON of useful information there, but beware, you can definitely become a career information consumer and buy WSO (Warrior Special Offers) which give great information till the cows come home, but never DO anything with the information. I have purchased about 10 WSO and some were duds, some were great and some I thought "Wow, I could use this," but I haven't done the actual work yet.
I have vowed that I will not buy another WSO until I put into practice at least two suggestions for traffic generation that I learned.
Basically the best two WSO that I have participated in and that I now want to focus on getting the most out of, are Traffic Movies - videos that show you how to to generate significantly more traffic, given a 45 minute time investment (recommended per week) on your part. I LOVE that they qualified the time needed. So far, I've watched the video and still need to make the 45 minutes to implement action item number 1, but, it is moving up on my to-do list (hey, I had to update this blog first, don't you think?).
I'll write another post when I have some results, but I have to say these particular traffic tips are VERY unique, nothing that I've seen recommended elsewhere.
And secondly I joined Lee McIntyre's, Standing Start Profits membership site. At $19.97 a month, it's a fraction of the fraction of the Stompernet and it's filled with some of the NICEST people in Internet Marketing. Wow. As this cooperative, supportive group exchanges information and aid, this is serious proof that nice guys do NOT have to finish last.
So that's an update on all I've been up to, while I have NOT been posting. Sorry almost every paragraph here should be it's own post. I will try to do better in the future. Oops, someone told me not to say "try to..." that it is like saying "I will try, but I know I'll fail." Okay, so, I'll post more in the future.
Till then,
Scam Hunter
Hi!
Would you mind telling us specifically what you expected from our salesletter that was not delivered in the course? We appreciate your feedback.
Warm regards,
Anne Reilly
Personal Assistant to Mark Joyner
Posted by: Anne Reilly | November 06, 2007 at 10:25 PM
I got a lot out of the 7-Day Business Turnaround, but what I didn't get was the basic premise that in 7 Days of following the course, that I could generate 2 months of business operating expenses.
I did come up with additional ideas for generating income, which is good and improved several internet marketing skills. And one of my ideas that had appeared a total dud, just had some sales trickle in this week. But I fell way short of the two months of operating expense.
I saw a post on Warrior's Forum the other day about why so many people leave Internet Marketing so frustrated and the gist of it was that too many of the gurus try to teach people to run who haven't learned to walk and when you try to run when you can't walk, you end up face-first in the dirt. I think that might be true of Mark's 7-Day Business Turnaround. For people, such as the example is repeatedly given of Kristi Sayles, who are already earning at least a few hundred dollars of income each month online, and have some number of customers, then following the 7-Day Business Turnaround may very well produce the desired results. But... if the course is taken by someone who has had almost no online success so far, then I think it is MUCH harder to become THAT successful in 7 Days.
A more minor point, the suggestion is made that if you haven't achieved your goal, to repeat the course. I did that to some extent, but.... the forum participation at that point really had tailed off and therefore one's odds of success go down as you can no longer get feedback on sales pages, etc.
Again, the course offers quite a bit, BUT... the offer that it made (as I remember it, I could be wrong) -- 2 months operating expenses following 7 days of intense work, didn't come to fruition for me. Believe me, I'd be happier to say that I HAD achieved that goal.
I am impressed that you spotted this post AND followed up. This is hardly the most widely-read blog:)
Posted by: ScamHunter | November 06, 2007 at 11:52 PM
Your comments make total sense and we respect that. As with any kind of business building program, there are too many variables to create something that works for absolutely every person. That’s why we make access to the course so easy (7 days free trial) and have a very generous (60 days) refund policy. Our feeling is that anyone who goes through the course will most certainly benefit if they follow the instructions. At the very least, you’ll understand the mechanics of what makes money – the Cash Injection Missions are in fact the precise things you need to do – it’s impossible to make money without each of those steps, in fact. So, if someone comes in, follows our advice, and falls short of the two-month operating expenses target, we’re happy to refund them (or for any reason for that matter). Finally, we do state that the course is intended specifically for established businesses, but if someone is a newbie – some newbies can get results, too. As for the forum, if you’re not getting the response you need, you can always contact our help desk and we’ll make sure you get help.
Posted by: Anne Reilly | November 07, 2007 at 05:36 PM
Hmm... I remembered the 7 Days Free Trial and guess I missed that there was still a refund possible after that. It's a moot point now (since this was several months ago), and I don't think I would have actually considered it an item to ask for a refund for, since I normally would only do that if an item definitely did not work for me. The 7 Day Turnaround Course didn't quite deliver what I hoped, but it did "work" on some level by injecting my business with some new directions, tips, resources, etc.
I will say, and you (Anne Reilly) are a good example, that the customer service is top-notch at Mark's sites.
As for the sales letter stating the course is for established businesses. It probably does say that, but the giant font that I noticed when I checked it out a couple days ago said something to the effect of "Everything You Need to Turn Your Business Around" and not "Everything You Need to Turn An Established Business Around"-- and there are new businesses that haven't really gotten off the ground yet, that do need turning around, lest they crash on takeoff.
Not the one I'm involved in any more. We are tooling down the runway, clear for takeoff...... Vrrrrr....... (plane engine sound)...
p.s. Thanks for stopping by the blog and commenting. Always nice to know folks are reading!!
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